I’m sure everyone basically has a progression of:
Thursday – Shadowfist with random FSSs in the middle of the table and only one from your deck that starts in your opening hand.
Friday – Fading Suns where ambushes kept almost happening.
Saturday – Read Against the Dark Yogi only skimming over some geography sections. Designing a BattleTech scenario based on reading AtDY.
Sunday – Instead of BT, play three player Magic with my friend’s decks as he is trying to teach his son how to play.
Yup, pseudo-Indian fantasy inspiring BattleTech play that leads to playing Magic.
Let’s be a bit more specific.
The goal of our numerous house rule tries is to make the game smoother but endier after a certain point. The “Mooks” rule and the Sacred Ground rule are designed to allow someone to always have the resources and FSSs they need. These have worked fairly well.
Actually, stepping back, the “take one non-unique foundation character and one FSS into your opening hand and draw 4” rule was intended to prevent crippled starts. This has worked fine, possibly well.
The intent with the “here is a pile of face down, random FSSs that you must use instead of any from your deck except for your opening hand one” rule was to create an inevitability to someone winning. For, you see, Shadowfist is one of the few games that doesn’t build towards a higher probability of winning in the way that most games do. It was also to see some FSSs you would never see.
The first game was awful. It was five player team, one of the players used the “if you don’t have a FSS in play at the end of your turn, you are eliminated” rule and left, leaving the game a four-player free for all. Not much longer later, it ended.
The second game was an entirely reasonable four-player game where if I only had Mountain Retreat in front instead of whatever, the game would have lasted slightly longer with a funny event. Actually, the game ended at a good time. The player to my right was too strong, the player to my left swooped in for the win.
We are thinking of a mechanic where you look at the top two cards in the stack, put one into play and put the other on the bottom of the stack.
Two things about this format. One, if you build decks to use certain sites, you will not be happy with your random “this may do nothing” FSS. Two, not having any FSSs in your deck means you draw way more action.
I really don’t care about it one way or the other.
The prior session had cards in play that gave you some additional effect, like the starting card that gives you an additional power each turn. I think we are overcomplicating things. Why don’t we just have everyone generate a free power every turn, like we’ve talked about? Probably because it sounds kind of stale.
I’m a bit worried about a too quick jump on turn two or three, which is why I wonder about something based around turns in the game. For example, at the end of the last player’s turn on round three, everyone gains a power. Could then have this keep happening or could have it kick in every three times around the table or whatever.
The reality is that we aren’t trying to be competitive, we are trying to play a game where lots of wacky stuff happens, so people just aren’t abusing these various variants, so simpler might just be best to identify whether it’s a more fun way to play.
If you read RPG.net, you will find comments about how bad FS is mechanically. Quite true. It’s rather absurd, a game of failure with a bunch of unnecessary attributes and a nonsensical skill list (though, natural skills is a good idea).
Friday’s session was one of a few where I didn’t feel like it was just a string of accomplishing nothing rolls. There was the ladling soup at a soup kitchen opportunity to fan the Inner Flame of some bread thief. Oh, maybe I should mention that my PC is an Eskatonic who knows no theurgy, is no longer trying to be an alchemist because I could never figure out what alchemy actually did, and whose contribution in combat is absorbing hits to the jaw.
I’m beginning to see things that PCs can do, where before I just had no sense of what PCs were supposed to do. Some investigation. Some dealing with a murderer. Some hearing confession. Other PCs get to smuggle, an activity that seems incredibly weird for the primary aspects of the setting, but whatever.
Against the Dark Yogi
It uses cards from hand. Great. It only gives you two to choose, possibly more if you are Karmarrific. What?
I’m not sure why it’s a good idea to be a total badass but still have a bunch of levels of far more badder assness that you could achieve through your reincarnations. Why start at Enlightenment 2 other than it gives room for you to die into higher power levels? Or, become Elderly into higher power levels, which is rather bizarre since spending 5 years meditating upon how to achieve Super Saiyan isn’t exactly a long period of time. Sure, it’s more like spend 18 years as that’s how long it might take for someone to reincarnate into an adult, but it still seems odd to me that you are supposed to be the chosen ones and only hit your peak after you bite it several times.
I suppose I can do this myself or hope that a GURPS India is available some day, but I’d rather just use a fantasy version of India rather than have everything renamed, including the gods. I know L5R doesn’t take that approach, but, somehow, I’m not expecting 20 years of material for AtDY.
Still, I can imagine adventures. I even find the story behind the Dark Yogi to be quite reasonable. I might imagine sessions being more like one-shots in that momentous things happen often.
It’s funny how much story I can produce for scenarios. But, maybe, that’s why BT works as well as it does. For all of the silliness of how mechs work/are built, how completely ridiculous the setting is when you spend any time thinking about it or considering various possibilities of characters, or really how not fantastic the actual resolution of mech combat is, the setting did something to take soldiering into a place where narratives occur.
Of course, I also have an interest in war stories, so maybe it’s just that I’m overstating BT’s contribution to the idea of war stories.
Mechwarrior is still painful, though, methinks. Every attempt to get characters to do things outside of mechs just seems to completely defeat the setting.
Not particularly great games of Magic, which is normal, and, thus, why I don’t play more Magic. First game saw child basically play nothing as the deck needed at least four mana to ramp to fatties. Second game saw elf deck roll over everybody. Third game was more interesting, could have been even better if Wildfire would have gone off to clear all creatures in play.
But, putting aside how easy it is to have a bad game of Magic, it was different from my multiplayer CCG experiences of late in that how a deck was built mattered, a lot. Magic hits that analytical bone on what the current card choices are, what your curve needs to look like, how to maximize the value of everything, what cards are making your ability to function worse by their inclusion.
Next time, we might use my Type P decks for games. Whether those are any better is hard to say, especially since the decks we were using were intended more for multiplayer play and my P decks so aren’t.
The other takeaway is that there’s so much to learn about Magic that isn’t just learning what cards do. With other CCGs, I think a relatively large amount of understanding how to play better is knowing what cards do and what may see play. Now, sure, timing is important to everything, but timing seems a more subtle thing in V:TES or Shadowfist or B5 or whatever. With Magic, timing is crucial constantly.
What?!? More Ultimate Combat!?? So, Thursday, I was watching a game of Epic. I’m really not a fan of how it forces a “this is s-o-o-o broken” battle, but I looked at the rulebook. The mulligan rule caught my eye. I think it should be used with Ultimate Combat!. Basically, you shuffle back in (not discard) any number of cards from your opening hand, draw up to hand size, and take damage equal to the number of cards you shuffled back in.
So, of course, when I went to goldfish this rule, I kept getting amazing opening hands – play 5-6 cards in turn one sort of hands.
Using the idea of not starting from nothing, another possibility for how UC! should start is something like everybody starts with two foundation of their choice and a gi patch playable off of one of those foundation. I’m not sure that’s a good idea, in that it gets everyone to swingy cards that much faster. But, it’s the possibility of incredibly unbalanced starts that worries me about the game. Foundation, gi patch, Mantra of Power, Bear’s Jaw, gi patch, Elixir of the Gods, Mantra of Power, Yamashita’s Belt, Gi Patch: Rat, Mantra of Power, Dragon’s Fire is a theoretically possible first turn play. Just getting up two power on an opponent is probably game after players have a first turn.
No, not talking about a B5 card. One of the effects of not doing much gaming at the moment is that I have time to consider ideas. Too many ideas. But, who knows? Maybe one of the ideas becomes doing something. I might even have some interest in running a one-shot of something, which, normally, I eschew as I like long stories or, at least, recurring characters from my short stories.